To Linux or not to Linux

maarten · #1 (**permalink**) 06-05-2005, 10:47 PM

Easy, just select "submit article" from the user input! menu on the left. You get a couple of fields you can either use plain text or HTML with pictures / html layout. It will show you a list of allowed tags.

Would be cool if we can have a simple basic tutorial or something to get linux running + install a server.

Wiki seems to have survived, I have a backup from march.

Janus · #2 (**permalink**) 06-06-2005, 06:52 AM

Only one problem with that, uhh... Which distro would you write the installer for? Mind you there's over a thousand different distros out there for download too :P. Just because one distro forks off of another doesn't mean they'll install the same way either.

Your Wiki section would need to have an 'expansive' way to add multiple distros etc. Too bad we can't export some of the Wikipedia.com pages... They've got some insightful pages on Linux and GNU and programming altogether... The thing I hate most about wiki-anything is that people usually tend to try and 'take over' certain definitions, often deleting what you post, then modifying their older post to 'include' your thoughts, but 'how they want it said', bastards! A wiki-community is not in the nature of a true Linux-community, where ideas are changed and corrected and appended onto, but credit is given to those whome posted what in the process - without having to look at the 'history' page.

If you don't mind me holding off on submitting an event until 'plugit' is completed please. I'm just starting to get back into the 'groove' of writing on it. The source code for plugit is constantly being updated for public access everytime I take a break from it. I'd like to think if there's any C programmers out there they could maybe do something with it, help out or suggest optimizations or whatnot. Get in the VIBE of GPL :P! I really do regret sometimes being the only programmer in our group... Richard just has too much going on in his life to free lance it like I do. I don't blame him for not getting online as much as he use to *sigh*. Raising kids shouldn't be such a pain in the ass as it is!

maarten · #3 (**permalink**) 06-08-2005, 04:26 PM

Personal frustrations apart the idea is not to create a 'cover all' Wiki site. Boon started this Wiki setup and made a simple, to the point explenation on how to install co-Linux. The idea was to include a distro and make sure we write enought tutorials everyone, including my mother, can install it.

I asume that anyone who has a preference because he/she tried out Linux before will be able to figure out how to setup and run a Palace Server without our help.

This is suppose to be for people who are new to Linux. Who have no idea where to start and no preferences when it omes to what distro to use.

Well thats my view of the thing anyway. Anyway I need to fix the Wiki pages I guess.

As for the people retyping anything: I wish the Wiki pages on Palace planet got that much input nobody changed a letter in the year it was up :P

Personally if anyone would take time to read my stuff and cares enought to correct or add to it I would be happy. Then again it was always about just helping people not about credits anyway :twisted:

Janus · #4 (**permalink**) 06-10-2005, 06:12 PM

I would need some help translating or 'dumbing down' the descriptions of what to do. Linux is far too complex for the average person who just wants to 'plug in and play games/music'. The overall problem is that when it comes to Linux you have to THINK! Oh yes, THINKing! Run for your life!!! And because Windows users generally are not required to think for anything other than lifting your finger and pressing on the mouse, people will probably never leave it. Why bother thinking for yourself when Windows has software to think for you?! Who the hell wants to 'learn' just for the sake of 'learning'? This is the kind of stuff I see all over the world Marteen. It makes me sick!

maarten · #5 (**permalink**) 06-10-2005, 10:00 PM

You make this all to complicated:

Its not about you or your personal issues with people, the world and windows :P :twisted: the million variations on Linux and how people are not smart enought to know all about programming. :lol:

Its about making a Linux distro that can safely and securely run a Linux Palace server on with a Co-Linux setup.

So simply put you can take a very basic 29mb Debian distro, drop in a nice firewall, Palace server with template, bunch of plugins. Make sure Apache is used for media upload perhaps fix up a simple Instant Palace. Perhaps add a little webcontrol Panel is possible. Make it into a selfinstalling .exe and thats it.

Anyone who wants more needs to learn Linux themselves.

Janus · #6 (**permalink**) 06-11-2005, 08:19 PM

The only way people could 'get linux' and stay with it, is if you were willing to 'hold their hand' through all their problems with it. Now, given the fact I have better things do, things I'm not getting paid for either way, I'll pass on helping some newb.

Only when every Windows user can pass an A+ cert exam will they have a chance with TRUE Linux. If you can't understand howto label your hard drives from IDE/SCSI device orders, or you can't grasp the idea that your CD-ROM tray wasn't made to be a 'cup holder', or you think the FBI's going to knock on your door just because Windows popped up with an 'Illegal Operation' error, then there isn't much hope for such a person.